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	July 25, 2003 We have claimed our first keep!!! Yrma, Alatar, and Gerontius contributed to this valiant effort. We should all be proud :) July 13, 2003 Pecival, Guild House, 3:30 PM EDST Members present: Alatar/Alatarch, Gaffersong, Gelmirv, Gerontius/Gerontiusia, Gorgenhad, Jarn, Lashus, Morgothv, Odernia, Orome, Turgonv, Yrma/Irmo(pres.). Celebration! We celebrated the fact that Valar exist as a Guild in Hibernia (Percival) for a half year! (since januari 11). Many of us gathered for this anniversary occasion: twelve members sets a new record for Valar-DaoC meeting attendance! As a surprise anniversary gift Yrma presented to Valar a brandnew Guildhouse. The house is in Fullerton (nr. 9), House # 3700. It has a grandmaster merchant, a Domnann portal, a forge, a consignment merchant, a Vault keeper and a Guild Vault. The meeting was held in the new house. The house can be accessed in four ways: 1. Fast: Buy a portal token and port to Guild Hearth from either Drum Ligen or Domnann. 2 . Slow: Enter the housing area from TNN North, buy a horse ticket to Ainslee, at Ainslee walk NE and East left of river bank to Kilcullen, stables Gowan, buy horse ticket to Cassidei, at Cassidei type /houseface guild and walk the few yards to House. 3. Very slow: unless bard/chanter: Enter housing area from TNN North, type /houseface guild and walk East and Southeast to House. Retype /houseface guild now and then. 4. Very fast: but hardly recommendable: type /release house after dying. The house is both internally and eternally fully decorated (meaning that nothing further can be added unless something is removed first <grin>). Pages 1-3 in the Guild Vault are mathoms (gifts), to be taken or put there freely by any member. Please be selective with what you put in there! Pages 4-5 are craft materials for transferability reasons, not to be touched. The Domnann portal can at request be changed temporarily by Yrma/Fantura to a Tir Na Nog portal or a Drum Ligen portal. Later there will be alternatives to the GM merchant as well. Thanks to donations by Orome, Alatar and Gerontius the house got a bindstone. Type /release house if you want to release at home. Membership: Jarn, Gelmir and Gerontiusisa received their emblemed cloak because they came of age (20th season). More power to them! Congratulations! Ranking system: Yrma explained the new ranking system The resulting ranks for each character are now on the Message Board . Members are requested to help Yrma, Fantura or Morgothv with the implementation of the new ranking system for their characters. Guild Fund: Previous saldo (June 29): 941 g Expenses since then: guildhouse plus ingredients 8500 g, bindstone 1000 g, stipendia spellcrafting 2231 g (Ontius) and alchemy 472 g (Gerontusia), member armor 56 g. Donations since then: Alatar 500g, Gerontius 400 g, Orome 500 g, Yrma 10.000 g. New saldo (July 13): 82 g. At this place a note should be made that Melkor is of course not expected to donate to the Guildfund, because advancing the craft skills of weaponsmith Austi (for which he does not request support from the Guild Fund) is as expensive as it can get. Also be noted the fact that in Valar only the rich are expected to donate to the Guildfund. Guild Hunt: Between many things to arrange in and around the house, the ranking system and crafting services, some of us found an opportunity to hunt after the meeting. Alatarwalker first lead a hunt of young ones around Dromnan, later Gerontius, Alatarsong and Yrma went to hunt in the Vale of Balor, while Fedelone and Gelmirv went to Thidranki battlegrounds. Edanyael dropped by during the hunt to say greetings in between RL obligations. June 22, 2003 Percival, Mag Mell, 3:30 PM EDST Members present: Alatar/Alatarch, Gerontius Took, Irmo/Yrma (pres.), Lungorthin/Raukov, Melkor/Morgothv, Turgon/Gondolinv Welcome to our new members! Lashus, Jauncy, Pavender and Odernia! DaoC News Character News: -Amnon is on holiday in the USA for two weeks and not near a computer. -Irmo is working on a new ranking system which will soon be mailed to all members. -Raukov is now the Valar character with the most RvR points. Congratulations! -Fantura (tailor) has followed Yrma to the status of legendary crafter, Ontius (imbues) and Austi (weapons) are now seniors! Guild Fund: Donation of 400 g by Turgon! Guild Hunt: As Orome and Ettoip joined in, we went to Innis with the idea of hunting banshees. Alas, it took of time a bit to gather, and by the time we were set some had to leave again. So no banshees, but the far darrigs and dreamhances were fun enough though. June 1, 2003 Percival server, Mag Mell, 3:30 PM EDST Members present: Ettoip (Gorgenhad Oldbuck), Gerontius Took, Gondolin (Turgon), Raukov (Lungorhin), Yrma (Irmo) (presiding) Next Saturday (June 7), 3:30 PM EDST, will be held a Tolkien chat in Mag Mell (postponed from May 17). Gerontius is organizing this. The membership will be notified by mail as well. DaoC News- Discussing Guild hunts: The age difference between main characters is rather large, which prevents well-formed groups. Should we all make starting characters, specifically meant to hunt together at the Guild Hunts? Obvious advantages, but these would disappear when members do not frequently attend the Guild Hunts (the age difference would soon grow again). Besides it will take a long time before such a group could gain funds for the Guild. Best would be if members would attend frequently: then we could form two or three groups of different age. Recruiting: Long time since we had new members. The entree test is sometimes considered a reason not to apply for Valar. It is indeed a procedure unheard of in DaoC (either invite a player or not, but test?). Conclusion: The entree test does not have to be taken right away. People can enter at Guild Rank 9, to see if they feel good with us (and we with them). If all goes right, people will want full membership (test), if not they will want to leave anyway. At higher season all nice people are already in one Guild or another. Could be an argument to do Guild Hunts with young characters (meet yet unguilded nice people). Guild Fund: Previous (May 25): 741 g Since then: Stipendia spellcrafting 666 g (Ontius) and weaponcraft 440 g (Austi). Donations: 50 g Gondolin 150 g Rauko 900 g Yrma. New (June 2): 747 g Guild Hunt: We tried for Darkness falls, but it closed as we headed there. Went to Treibh Caillte instead, with Gondolin, Ontius, Fedelone and Maigan. (two enchanter + two bards) May 25, 2003 Hibernia/Percival, 2:20 EST Members: Alatarwarden, Tuvo/Amnon, Ettoip, Gerontiustook, Irmo/Yrma(pres.) Tolkien: Irmo (Yrma) has assembled a list of quenya role-playing expressions. All members have received the list by mail, also published on the EZBoard. DaoC News- Alliance: Amnon (Tuvo) has written a story by which we have introduced our Guild to the Anam na Eireann Alliance. It has met with courteous response. Guild Fund: Old (may 18 ) : 261 g. Since then: Donation Gerontius Took: 100 gp Donation Amnon 200 gp Donation Turgon 80 gp Donation Ettoip 100 gp New: 741 gp! <cheers to the gracious donators> Guild Hunt: After these announcements and their discussion members present joined in a hunt in Darkness Falls. We met with a member of Anam na Eireann, with which we had a jolly good time. May 17, 2003 Hibernia/Percival, 2:20 EST Members: Alatarwarden, Tuvo/Amnon, Ettoip, Gerontiustook, Turgon/Gondolin, Merleau, Lungorthin/Raukov, Irmo/Yrma(pres.) Membership: Last week we saw the return of Amnon, this week we saw the return into our midst of Valinduil/Argon. Hurray! Web News: The meeting minutes will hence forward be printed on the Valardaoc Homepage by Lungorthin. More power to him! Tolkien: Gerontius called attention to the Tolkien chat saturday 24, 3:30 PM EDST. (NOTE: Later in the week it turned out that the chat had to be postponed because both Gerontius and Yrma have real life obligations at that date and time). Many of us are presently experimenting with using a few elvish expressions to embellish our (role)play DaoC News- Alliance: Amnon and Yrma will introduce the Valar Guild to the Anam na Eireann Alliance. The members present repeated their commitment to choose honor and gallant role-play above power and powerplay.. Tradeskills: Amnon has posted a list of available alchemy services on the EZBoard. Impressive indeed! Be sure to take a look there. Guild Fund: Spending: 666gp spellcrafting and alchemy. Donations: Amnon (100 gp), Merleau (40 gp), Gerontius (100 gp), Yrma (600 gp). Guild Hunt: After these announcements and their discussion members present joined in a hunt in the Coruscating Mines. We had a full group all Valar! The Mines were overcrowded, and we did not find any gallantry there. Looking for a place to hunt, we were soon prey ourselves and suffered a few deaths. Not much “exp and loot”, but a learnable adventure in more ways than one. May 5, 2003 Hibernia/Percival, 3:30 PM EST Members: Alatar/Alatarv; Gerontius/Gerontiustookv; Gorgenhad/Ettoip; Irmo/Yrma; Turgon/Ondolindev. Lungorthin has the homepage for Valar-DaoC up again. More power to him ! We have discussed alliance options. Given the choice between RvR power and courteous role-playing as predominant Alliance features, the members present chose the latter. Please post your views! Irmo/Yrma will further probe the options. DF hunting by Alatar, Gerontius, Turgon and Yrma has brought 50 gp worth of seals. A donation of 300 gp by Yrma brings the Guild Fund to a nice total of 564 gp . After the meeting we all went to hunt in Treibh Caillte. Later on, Gerontius, Ettoip and Yrma went to Darkness Falles when it opened. -Lungorthin April 30, 2003 The rest of this page will remain the same, with Lindir as the author. With any hope, I will make this page our news page as the motherguild has their news page. -Lungorthin February 28, 2003 (A.M....) It's late, but I've slept all day (mostly), and am determined to get more done :) I've added a few more menu links to the left. The Hierarchy page is not quite completed, but the link to our forum is. I have yet to add discussion topics (Raids, tradeskills, helpful hints, etc.), but will do that soon. Unfortunately, Ikonboard was down for maintenance, so I had to go with EZboard, which abounds with popups. As soon as Ikonboard is back up and running, more than likely our forum will be moved to there, as it's a much easier message board to work with. In the meantime, feel free to sign up for your EZboard account and start posting away! I'm eager to see what you all have to say in open forum, and even moreso to see what you design for your avatar :) -Lindir February 27, 2003 -The Charter is now up. This is the perfect link to direct all aspiring members to read and understand what the Valar is and what we stand for. The other links are being worked on, and will be up soon. Thank you Yrma for getting me all the needed information. -Lindir February 25, 2003 -The site has been updated a bit since you've seen it last. It will continue to improve and grow in the same way in which our guild has. There are still a few links that I'm working on, and you should see them up in a few days (hopefully). The CHARTER and HEIRARCHY links do not work at the present time. I will update the news section when they are up and running. I'm still working on the screenshots, and will need to find some more webspace soon :) Please let me know how you like the new look. Your feedback thus far has been greatly appreciated! -Lindir February 23, 2003 Meeting Notes Members present Gandalf/Olorinv, Irmo/Yrma (pres.), Lindir/Raime, Lungorthin/Raukov. Membership: Yojimba chose Faramir as his Guildname. Our Valarguild member of honour Rose Cotton joined with her DaoC-character Arowenv. Big welcome to her, being the RL daughter of Orome. (For those that are unaccustomed: “members of honour” in the Valarguild – like Falathar and Rose Cotton, are members – sons/daughters of older members – who are young enough not to be a regular member (at the discretion of parents). We now have 17 members at Valar-DaoC! Funding: Due to expenses for advancing various tradeskills we now have 200 g left in the Guild bank. About 9 characters are in their mid-twenties now and will soon be needing new equipment. Level 30 equipment easily costs 200 g. Until now, the Guild has had no financial worries, thanks especially to Melkor and Orome sponsoring. Of course, at a given moment - being now - the Guild has to try and stand on its own two legs. The following measures were proposed to further improve Guild economy: - Members are asked to “buy locally”. If you buy from Guild crafters it is cheaper for you, while the crafters can advance their skills that way. - Members are asked – especially from 25th season onward – not to sell any armour or weapons they find to the NPC’s (if the item will not be used), but to sell/give them to Yrma for salvaging. - Services of Guildcrafters like Gandie (Gandalf), Yrma and Austi (Melkor) have until now been mostly free for members, this policy however can only be sustained for members whose main characters are younger than 20th season. Tradeskills: We agreed that everybody is free to follow their heart as to tradeskills, but the Guild cannot support all crafters. We agreed on the following list of “main” Guildcrafters, whose skills will be supportable by Guild financing: - Spellcraft: 1. Gandie (Gandalf), 2. Aldaronv (Orome) - Alchemy: 1. Tamoin (Tuvo), 2. Aziriphael (Lindir) - Fletching: 1. Raime (Lindir) - Weapons: 1. Austi (Melkor) - Tailor: 1. Olorinv (Gandalf), 2. Chrysophilax (Nireis) - Armour: 1. Yrma (Irmo), 2. Almaen (Lindir) The list is based on present skills and commitments. If your crafter is not on this list, but should be, please holler. If your crafter is on this list but should not be, please holler <chuckles>. If you want to exercise a tradeskill, but are not on this list (which contains 2 crafters per skill maximally), you would do wisely to advance the skill in such a way that it does not cost you money, but actually earns you an income (by doing craft consignments). For now, it would be rather inefficient, if for instance we were all starting on alchemy/spellcrafting (no tasks: devours your income). Next meeting: Sunday march 2, 3:30 PM EST, followed by the Tolkien chat, in the Yahoo Discussion Board Chat Room, at 5 PM EST. Meeting report Valar/DaoC Sunday February 16, 2003 Members present: Angrod/Aurgus, Gandalf/Olorinv, Irmo/Yrma (pres.), Lindir/Raime, Lungorthin/Raukov, Orome/Aldaronv, Tuvo/Amnon, Yojimba. Membership: A warm welcome to Yojimba, who was invited into the DaoC Guild by Lungorthin and passed the 5 entry questions! Yojimba will yet choose his Guildname. And a warm welcome to Lady Nireis, who was invited to Daoc-Valar by Gandalf, and is currently reading LOTR. Amnon reached his 20th season and was ceremonially handed his emblem-engraved cloak and shield during the meeting. We agreed this ceremonial will from now on be customary for all characters upon reaching 20th season. Reaching 20th is not only momentous because of emblem rights, but also because at that age members start being able to defend the realm. We now have 16 members at Valar-DaoC! Web page: Big cheers went out to Lindir the Formidable, whose new Valar-DaoC www-page is a very beautiful site indeed! Lindir told about his plans for further augmentations. Please send him your screenshots! Tradeskills: Be sure to type [ /webdisplay trades on ] for your crafter, when in game! Everyone is free to follow their hearts regarding tradeskills. But, after reaching 650, specialization is necessary within the Guild. Advancing from there is very expensive, and is in need of Guild support. Alchemy and spellcraft need support from the start as it is, though tasking might be implemented at a next patch. As yet, only Olorinv (Tailor) and Yrma (Armour) are beyond level 650. Funding: Due to expenses for advancing various tradeskills we now have 330 g left in the Guild bank. Discussion: Topic: How do we organize our Tolkien commitments? Discussion treated 3 dilemma’s: preparation (prepared in advance or spontaneous), frequency (weekly vs. monthly), place (DaoC/B.net/Yahoo Chatroom). We reached the following agreement to be put to the b.net community as a proposal: Monthly Tolkien chats, well-prepared in advance, in the Yahoo chatroom. Let’s see if both the DaoC and B.net communities are prepared to leave their worlds and go there for discussing Tolkien. Time: 5 PM EST, with the request to the B.netters if they would hold their business meeting after the chat. If that is not possible we could for instance choose 4 PM EST. First combined Tolkien chat would be March 2nd, to be prepared by one DaoC-er and one B.netter. Business meetings for DaoC-Valar will continue to take place every sunday in Mag Mell at 3:30 PM EST. To be kept short and to the point. “Oromesque” so to speak <grin>. Suggestions by Amnon were discussed: to organize a tutoring of new members by experienced members, both regarding Tolkien and gaming, and to stimulate reading Tolkien by giving out “research” consignments for those who would like to advance Guild-ranks that way. Members present agreed on these suggestions, but how to organize this? Will be further discussed by mail. Next meeting: Sunday February 23, 3:30 PM EST. Meeting report Valar/DaoC Sunday February 9, 2003 Members present: Haleth/Aurgus, Ettoip, Irmo/Yrma (pres.), Lindir/Raime, Melkor/Morgothv, Nain/Nainin, Orome/Aldaronv. Membership: A warm welcome to Ettoip and Kirryn, who were invited into the DaoC Guild by Haleth and Melkor! Kirryn is the rl wifemate of Haleth/Aurgus, while Ettoip is a rl friend of Haleth. Amnon is back from Australia and was seen in a group with Irmo/Yrma and Melkor/Andr. Welcome back! Elatan is coming back from skiing monday 10. Melkor will be going on holiday and will be away from computer starting wednesday 12 until late in march. Lungorthin came in later during the day with Nimraugv, who was properly invited and set at his due rank of maia! That was when most Valar were in Thidranki (more about that below), but we will meet again mellon! We now have 13 members at Valar-DaoC! Tradeskills: With Olorin (Gandalf, cloth, 650), Yrma (Irmo, reinforced, 650) and Almaen (Lindir, scale, 555) we now have the armour pretty much covered. Nainin (Nain) and Azriphael (Lindir) have started on alchemy, both at about 400. Gandie’s spellcraft is nearing 600, and he rocks, imbueing for all of us. Andr’s weaponcraft is now at 555! All in all an incredible result for a Guild that is less than a month old! Be sure to set [ /webdisplay trades on ] for your crafter, when in game! Yrma, Almaen and Raime now are shown proudly on the Camelot Herald ranking! Thanks to Lindir for the tip. Check it out here: The Camelot Herald Funding: Melkor donated yet another 100 g this week, so we now have 500 g for Guild funding! Discussion: 1. Technical game discussion on rams, siege, siegecraft and siegemaster’s. We have no expert in the Guild. Nain kindly suggested a friend of him could prepare a lecture for us. We also will look into what is on the websites about this. 2. Should friends who are invited into the Guild be allowed to wear the emblem, while they have not done the 5 questions (yet)? A question with many aspects, many of them discussed at meeting. We agreed that the Guild leadership will prepare a proposal for next meeting. Muire quest: Gandalf, Irmo, Lindir, Melkor, Aurgus and Kirryn have finished this challenge during last week! Thidranki adventure: After the meeting Haleth/Aurgus, Ettoip, Irmo/Yrma, Lindir/Almaen and Melkor/Andr went together into Thidranki, the 21-24 battlegrounds, to defend the realm against Midgard and Albion. We succeed in forming a Hibernian main force of – in the end – two fighting groups (16 players), and 5 scouts. Even then we were massacred by huge numbers of enemies. Hibernians were lead by Yrma and Andr. Goto The Camelot Herald: Guild Registry, and see the result for Valar! Almaen already sent you his delicious screenshots. Next meeting: Sunday February 16, 3:30 PM EST.